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Post by mahotsukai on Oct 4, 2006 15:08:39 GMT -5
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My ideas for undead pygmies were more along the lines of vampires or thralls rather than zombies and skeletons. They are like normal pygmies, (maybe white skinned with black makeup . . voodoo??) but cannot die. They do not need to kill or have evil desires. I would rather see them as something to be pitied rather than evil denizens of the night, which is why I stated they weren't hostile (but defensive). I would prefer to keep them as an opposing force that you can encounter on adventures than make them friendly though!
I think Voodoo/Shamanism fits the Pygmies well. Larry
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Post by oversoul on Oct 4, 2006 15:19:36 GMT -5
Hey welcome Maotsukai!
I like the wanderlust idea, it could even be extended to a quirk for when a pygmy does not grow out of it.
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Post by oversoul on Oct 4, 2006 15:34:27 GMT -5
Oh and the movie your nodding to PJ is Congo, based on the book by Criton.
I kinda like the idea of lizardmen, a nod to Doyle and all "lost fantasy". A decayed and hidden empire.
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Post by shaungamer on Oct 5, 2006 1:35:47 GMT -5
I also like the wanderlust. I almost put something like that in the quirks but decided it sounded to australian. (Our aborigines quite often go on "walkabout" and I sometimes think it gets used too much!)
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Post by brynbrenainn on Oct 5, 2006 1:51:07 GMT -5
Yes, they do, don't they... Well, I had the Masai in mind.
I have this picture in my head of a tall man standing on one foot restiing the other on the kneecap - gently leaning on his spear. He is looking out over a great, flat wilderness in the sunrise. You can almost feel his eagerness.
Must have seen a photo in National Georaphic or something, this is too vivid to just be made up by me.
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Post by mahotsukai on Oct 5, 2006 15:53:27 GMT -5
I also looked to the Masai for inspiration.
Along with the masai comes the Manhood ritual of Lion killing.
A while ago I did a conversion for a Lion Society Warrior, with your permission I would like to upload it over at Paperworlds to let you have a look.
Unmarried mens societies might be interesting;
Pirueti Plains - Lion Lake Washafishy - Crocodile Dim Dim Forest - Tiger
Larry
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Post by brynbrenainn on Oct 6, 2006 2:17:09 GMT -5
Post away. It is fun to see others take an intrest in ones work.
However, I think you should 'scale down' the antagonist for the ritual. This game is meant to be a bit light hearted and not too close to reality or the real world. I see it as a kids game, where killing is not in the front seat. Granted, kids of all ages - inclding us - but still a kids game.
'Unmarried mens socieities' would include almost the whole tribe, since there are never many women in a tribe. But I might misunderstand you, so post your suggestions here for me to read.
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Post by mahotsukai on Oct 6, 2006 14:02:26 GMT -5
The Lion is an aspirational goal.
As I've said in the upload to paperworlds the manes are only grass, the warriors are donning the mantle of the Lion to gain it's strength and courage.
'Unmarried mens socieities' would include almost the whole tribe, since there are never many women in a tribe. But I might misunderstand you, so post your suggestions here for me to read.
The societies I see as being 'outside the tribe' and only made up of those seeking a mate. This could be a mechanism to prevent inbreeding. 'A taboo against taking a woman from the same tribe as yourself possibly.' So you would get in effect an all male tribe made up of young males from several different tribes.
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Post by brynbrenainn on Oct 6, 2006 14:24:38 GMT -5
That Lion cultist is very cool looking. Very well done. ;D
That all male group could be a good 'alibi' for adventuring, and an explanation why diferent character types get together in such an 'odd' group.
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Post by mahotsukai on Oct 7, 2006 12:46:28 GMT -5
Thank you.
However without your excellent work I could not have produced anything. As I said to Historygamer2 my 'talent' is the ability to see the potential in something, a sort of lateral thinking.
Thank you for producing such inspirational miniatures.
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Post by brynbrenainn on Oct 12, 2006 23:19:54 GMT -5
Let me tell you a story: Once in a while there is unrest on the plains. A great snake is hiding in the grass. Every pygmy in the village is terrified. Even though they know that they have no real reason to be afraid because they have accepted the Rules of the Game set down by centuries of tradition; The pygmies have a flock of goats. They know full and well that the snake, the Kaathon, demands a 'Gift of Food'. Whenever the Kaathon is too close for comfort to the village, a brave group of pygmies drives one or two goats out to meet the Kaathon. After a time of token haggling (Yes, the Kaathon is clever and can talk with a pygmys tounge) the Kaathon ussualy accepts the Gift of Food and leaves the pygmies alone. For a while. The pygmies can relax once more, until another Kaathon comes around. There are years when the Kaathons migrate in great numbers. Those years the goats are sparse and pygmies rob other tribes. The Kaathons are so scary that the pygmies must find a 'Gift' - no matter the cost of tribal friendship... The pygmies have also learned that the goats give great milk and that milk can be turned into tasty cheese. Some goats also gives a coarse kind of whool. But no Pygmy ever eats a goat - not ever. If they did, it would mean a greater risk to not have enough Gifts when the Kaathons arrive...
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Post by shaungamer on Oct 13, 2006 4:18:48 GMT -5
Oooh! Scary story . . . . Very nicely done! Although I don't know if you should ever make the Kaathon eat a pygmy. I kind of like it only being a scare factor, but one of such over whelming conviction that no pygmy would ever try to test it.
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Post by brynbrenainn on Oct 13, 2006 5:48:11 GMT -5
Yeah, ye'r probably right.
I can change the wording in the story to be scary, but not actually implying any pygmies get eaten.
I wanted to introduce the goats, but still make sure that the tribes won't get more meat. See the story in that light instead, I was not aiming to make the game a B-horror movie...
/B
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Post by brynbrenainn on Oct 13, 2006 11:30:12 GMT -5
It is better now, huh? It is still scary, with a threat bubbling under the surface. But not blatantly B-movie any more. All it took was one paragraph... /B
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Post by shaungamer on Oct 13, 2006 16:16:48 GMT -5
That is a lot better!!! Well done!
Have you looked at any artwork for the Kaathon?
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